are you serious? man, i could probably do a huge story about all this. but i am pretty burnt right now and i don't think it would come out very well. it's easier to just get me and some other super old school kids like davey and piyu talking about shit we remember than to try and put it all in order and make it make sense.
ummm ok. i first got here in 2000. late 2000, like december. and i didn't start posting til i think april of 2001. at least, not on a regular basis. i remember when the board was one of those old school scroll types where you had to click on each reply individually. that was around the time i joined. that was when lizzie first came to prominence--her and meganclash and i think tis would just post random shit over and over and fill the board up to the point where posts would disappear off the bottom within 15 minutes.
next was the ikonboard. i hated the ikonboard--never posted on it. however, many many people loved that thing, and will sing its praises to this day. i think it lasted til april 2001, at which point we got the board that's here now.
ok, someone else wanna tell part of this for a bit? i can't see myself just sitting here and typing one big long post all night.
hmm, wait, i'm thinking of stuff now. roland, i'm just gonna tell random stories. i'll try to say about when they happened, but you'll have to put this all in some kind of order later.
nintendork, who everyone remembers, was originally known as nintendocore, which not that many people know. i will explain how he ended up having the more well-remembered username later. anyway, during the days of the scrolling board--or maybe the ikonboard, but i'm gonna say the scrolling board--he got into some weird war with gibby and desmond, who were the only admins at the time and who were part of an "internet crew" called pacihl. [what pacihl stood for was an extremely well-kept secret, to the point where, even though i found out in about mid-2002, i still won't post it to this day]. nintendork/nintendocore started some weird internet rivalry with pacihl that was him and some friends going under the name "EmOi". this was supposedly a group of pop-emo kids and skinheads, united together online. well, they fucked with gibby so mercilessly that he eventually banned the word "nintendocore" on the message board, and wrote it into the code that all posts containing that word would not be posted. or something. i don't know the ins and outs of the coding used, because i wasn't too frequent of a poster then. anyway, that changed when we got this board (though i think it WAS true on the ikonboard).
ok, more in a few.
ok, moc actually dates back a good bit longer than when i got here. to like summer 2000 i want to say, and even before, when it was called "sexy scenesters" and run by a kid named brian who used to do trackstar records. yoshi/piyu was part of all that, and probably remembers moc 1.0 and 2.0, which lasted a couple months apiece. i got here when moc 3.0 (the site design we all know and love) was in full swing. now moc 3.0 was designed by a girl named beth, who i believe ran a website called tickertape.net. i fibbed when i said gibby and desmond were the only admins in late 2000--beth was one too. anyway, in april 2001, gibby and beth (who was a bit of a drama queen from what i remember) had a big falling out, and gibby decided that he was going to completely take down moc 3.0 and put up moc 4.0 on very short notice. now, moc 4.0 was cobbled together by a guy named marc, who was brought in as an admin to replace beth (i think xmattx showed up about this time too). moc 4.0 was just different enough to not be moc 3.0, and all the differences SUCKED. you had to select your location from a pulldown scroll bar (so until you edited your profile, your location showed as "other"), the colors were ugly, and worst of all, your profile wouldn't show up if your username was over 10 characters long. you had the ability to modify your username in your profile, which was when "nintendocore" became "nintendork", "meg-cake_messiah" became "meg-a-roni", and "suburbancore" became "subrbncore", among others. but a lot of profiles just disappeared for a while. the hue and cry over how crappy the new design was became so great that gibby finally scrapped it after two weeks and went back to moc 3.0.
BUT THAT'S NOT THE END OF THE STORY.
more to come...
so ok, on another tangent, username tis was an early frequent poster. she was one of the first people i remember when i got here who posted all the time. in fact, those were the days when tis, lizzie, and meganclash posted constantly, and waytoblue was always around and had some sort of moc crush on this dude who's username was ponch and who's been gone for a good two years now, maybe longer. anyway, due to the hotheaded nature of our xmattx (which has calmed down AMAZINGLY in the time since), tis used to constantly run afoul of the admins. i think she would just push limits, though in a lighthearted manner--nothing like jon, though he was always similar in goal. tis looks like a pussycat next to jon.
anyway, tis had this ridiculously long story in her profile. it probably ran 10,000 words. it was reasonably interesting but took up tons of bandwidth. one night in moc chat (i believe this was on aim, but it could have been in #moc or in the actual moc server chatroom, which DID exist back in the day), xnikkix (xmattx's current wife, then girlfriend) started yelling at tis about the lengthy story in her profile. she told tis to change her profile or she was deleted. tis and nikki got into an insult war, the result of which was tis changing her profile to read "suck my cock" and xmattx hearing about this from nikki and getting REALLY MAD.
now, i was posting that night--it may have been the first night i really posted, in fact. so i happened to see tis's profile with the story removed, and will swear to this day that it was gone. however, xmattx was pissed about the fight with nikki, so he deleted tis.
THIS WAS THE FIRST DELETION IN THE HISTORY OF MOC.
lizzie was talking to tis on i.m. and was informed of the deletion. she posted a thread "TIS JUST GOT DELETED FROM MOC". people started freaking out over it. i i.m.ed gibby to be like "wtf" and he blocked me IMMEDIATELY. i may still be on his block list to this day. heh. anyway, so i i.m.ed xmattx, and he was very calm about the whole thing. after he told me the story, i saw why he was pissed. i told him that tis had changed the profile before he deleted her, and he said that he hadn't seen it, but that she could just reapply. tis complained that this was bullshit (i was talking to her on i.m. at the same time) but i figured it was a decent compromise. however, this incident apparently made the admins realize that they could use deletion and making people go through the queue again as an enforcement tool. and it just may have been the thing that caused fake profiles to start. though i can't be sure.
WHEN I RETURN, I WILL TELL OF THE CONNECTION BETWEEN THE TIS/XMATTX RIVALRY AND THE MOC 4.0 DEBACLE. DUN DUN DUNNNNN....
ok, so fastforward to august 2001. believe it or not, even though i've been a semi-frequent poster for about 3 years now, i have hardly ever had the internet at home. i've just had the same job ever since may 2000, and the cash registers here are computers with dsl. so yeah, i have a lot of spare time at work and post on here while at work, but most of the time i don't post any other time.
well, one night in august 2001, while i was off having a life, some sort of insane xmattx/tis battle raged scorched-earth style across the messageboard battlefield. the details have faded in everyone's memory, and i wasn't there, so i have no fucking clue what happened. what i do know is that i tried to look at moc the next day and the WHOLE SITE was gone. all the profiles were gone. the news items on the front page were gone. i think the board may even have been wiped. all that was there was a typed sentence, in red, across the news section of the homepage:
"someday a real rain will come and wash the scum off these streets."
xmattx had gone nuclear and wiped the whole site, leaving only a taxi driver quote. AND GIBBY WAS PISSED.
turned out that, 6 months later, the most recent archive of the website that gibby and marc had was the moc 4.0 stuff that had been used to install that version of the site's design. they re-uploaded the info that everyone had had at that time. this meant that nintendork, who had been nintendocore again for 6 months, was back to nintendork, then and forevermore (along with everyone else who'd shortened their usernames for moc 4.0). and everyone who had been accepted between april and august of 2001 no longer had a profile at all. they had to reapply.
i don't know the details but xmattx was placed on some restriction by gibby (or something). the upshot is he left moc in disgust. he didn't come back for 4 months. when he did, he was given admin powers again, but told to take it easy. and these days he does--in fact, sometimes it seems he's less hotheaded than gibby.
BUT I LOVE ALL OUR WONDERFUL ADMINS EQUALLY. AND I'M STARTING TO REALIZE JUST HOW MUCH TROUBLE I COULD GET IN IF I TOLD THIS STORY IN AN UNFRIENDLY MANNER WHERE THE ADMINS ARE CONCERNED. SO BELIEVE ME I WILL BE NICE--GIBBY MATT KERNEL, IF ANY OF YOU ARE READING. <3
OK, I DON'T KNOW WHAT STORY TO TELL NEXT. ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS? IN FACT, LET ME START A THREAD.
ok i was not on moc on 9/11, so someone else will have to do that one. also, i can talk some about the spin thing but i don't know if i know quite enough to really make it a STORY.
however, the beginning of the fake profile era.
well kids, as far as i remember, this all started as a tangent of the "internet crew" era. see, when pacihl was at its height, username zahava, who was later username cunt, and finally username intoyrself (i have some personal history with her...), started a crew along with tis and kittyboots called pafpdd. i refused to join if she wouldn't tell me what it stood for, and she never did until after it was all over, so i never joined. but there were many illustrious members of pafpdd, including calvin himself.
i don't mind telling you that i was really glad i never joined pafpdd when it came out that it stood for PEOPLE AGAINST FINGER PUPPETS DURING DIVE. evidently meaning that tis, cunt, and kittyboots didn't like being fingered while getting oral. (that knowledge came in handy later, too, but you guys don't wanna hear that part).
so anyway, there was this crew that started popping up towards the end of all that. it was something like SWAMNW. i have no idea what that shit stood for, but it was headed up by fancancook, and included mostlygone, x-offender (i think), and lizzie, among many others. probably at least 15.
around that time, there was also a new female poster named troubleinaminiskirt. she talked occasionally of vaguely racist concepts, told stories of drunken slutty behavior, and in general acted like a schizophrenic floozy (though i must say if fan could have seen 33 coming... well, i'm getting ahead of myself). after like a month of troubleinaminiskirt causing insanity all over the board, randomly i.m.ing mocular kids, etc, it came out that all of SWAMNW had the password to her profile and i.m. name, and that she didn't really exist.
so that was the first fake profile of any real note.
HOWEVER, THE TRUE ALL-TIME RULER OF ALL FAKES WAS YET TO COME.
MORE IN A FEW MINUTES.
andrew
let me help
the big moc wipe wasnt in august
it was in may.
may 21, 2001
i made a livejournal post
swear to god.
i aimed gibby at like 6am and told him it was all gone
EVERYONE, LAURA D.BABIES IS PROBABLY RIGHT. ANYONE WHO SAYS THEY REMEMBER THE FACTS BETTER THAN ME PROBABLY DOES. KEEP IN MIND THAT I WAS ONLY POSTING FOR ABOUT 25 HOURS A WEEK UNTIL VERY RECENTLY.
There really isn't too much to MOC on 9/11. The MOC message board was filled with regular subjects like sex and music when suddenly people started posting about the World Trade Center and the pentagon. Suddenly the sex posts, and the music posts, and all the idiotic posts you usually see on MOC was replaced by threads about the disaster, but strangest of all suddenly everyone was talking about politics and foreign policy and suddenly everyone was an expert on the UN and NATO and Al Qaeda. I have to say that was the only time I remember MOC being almost 100% serious.
Two days later, however, it was back to sex and nudes, and how Dhalsim should be banned from Street Fighter games sold in the US.
"let it be told that on the third night of the third week, travis still did not post.And there was a great light from the heavens."
nah, im just messin' with ya.
ok, part two of the advent of the fake profiles.
AKA THE GAYSIAN ERA.
yes, i'm sure even the newest of n00bs have at least heard whispered the fabled name of gaysian, but DO THEY REALLY KNOW THE TRUE STORY?
well, i may not know it any better than them, but i was around for it, so i have some insight.
let's get it all out in the open from the beginning: gaysian was a profile created by reu, aka block1of4, as a parody of gay asian roommates he'd had in the past, and of a more general gay asian stereotype that apparently does exist but that i've never encountered in reality--probably because i'm from the south. anyway, it spiraled way out of control very quickly, and may have had something to do with the formation of lnc (though i really can't be sure).
victorystardrop will tell you he invented posting in all caps, and he may very well have. however, it became a gaysian trademark, as did the expression "WEEEEEE" and, most notoriously, the solicitation of n00dz. i have no idea why a gay asian would be so obsessed with n00dz, but nonetheless that was a big part of the character.
what really set gaysian's n00dz obsession apart from the pack of n00dz-obsessed boys running around moc today was the fact that gaysian saved and compiled all n00dz into a big yahoo folder. you could get your yahoo userid added to the list of yahoo users who had access to the folder by sending gaysian n00dz of any mocer that he didn't already have. they could be of yourself if you were crazy enough to be willing to let basically all of moc see it, or they could be of any other user on the site--board poster or not.
the folders were separated by sex, and it was UNBELIEVABLE how many mocers were in there. i never got a password for myself, but neutral (now departed for lnc) let me use hers once and i dug around. i really wish i had had access to the site from somewhere other than my job, because i would have saved some pics, and would still have them today. ohhhhh well.
what's funny about gaysian is that everyone knew he was fake. very few people knew who he was in reality, but everyone knew he was fake. however, he was just so much fun. he had this way of showing up onto the board and turning the whole place into a love fest, even if everyone was fighting 5 minutes before. no one really even WANTED the whole thing to end.
there were several points at which gaysian did threads in which he told us all to guess who he really was. i thought he was fan, but i was wrong. NOW IT CAN BE TOLD: once, while cunt was in va visiting me, mandy photoslut told her that gaysian was reu. after that, i knew, but i didn't want to post that i knew, for fear of getting mandy or cunt or both in trouble. but i knew.
there was even a point where gaysian supposedly traveled around the country and met gibby and calvin. a pic from gibby and calvin's first meeting that was in color was photoshopped into one of the standard gaysian photos that was black and white. everyone knew it wasn't real, but still...
finally one day reu ended the whole masquerade and let everyone know that it was him playing gaysian the whole time. some were surprised, others swore they'd known all along. but all agreed--it was a great fake.
meanwhile, the board's obsession with n00dz has never truly ended.
what really set gaysian's n00dz obsession apart from the pack of n00dz-obsessed boys running around moc today was the fact that gaysian saved and compiled all n00dz into a big yahoo folder. you could get your yahoo userid added to the list of yahoo users who had access to the folder by sending gaysian n00dz of any mocer that he didn't already have. they could be of yourself if you were crazy enough to be willing to let basically all of moc see it, or they could be of any other user on the site--board poster or not.
^^I missed all the good n00dz stuff
ok kids i'm off work now. but apparently there are all sorts of ideas perking in the other thread, so i'll be telling stories far far into the night, of that there is no doubt.
back on in an hour and a half.
ok so gibby has had a pretty reliable server and etc. for quite a while now. but this wasn't always the case. back in the day moc would mysteriously disappear for days at a time, would run slower than molasses, would have weird glitches, etc. on a regular basis.
well, once something happened that caused moc to have to pull out of whatever server contract they had on EXTREMELY short notice. i think they'd hooked up with some fly-by-night company to take advantage of cheap rates and had things go south really fast. the computer guy at the time was an 18 year old kid named caleb, aka username inetwiz, and caleb drove over to the server place across town from where he lived, yanked the moc server physically out of the room where it was, and brought it back to his house.
this may all be incorrect in minor or major ways, i'm working with a flawed memory.
anyway, so at this point they were somehow able to jury rig a connection but it was superslow and so in order to cut down on bandwidth use and make shit faster, they disabled all moc-hosted images. but in return, they made it so you could post pics in your profile. most people didn't bother, though some went ahead and put pics in their profiles. but there were a few kids who went all out.
benjamin bunny, robotspacer, and joe converge2k (who i MISS) all had crazily elaborate html in their profiles. devincf had his pic appear outside of his profile, in the black space around it. at first everyone was afraid gibby would hate it but then he thought it was awesome. however, this sorta had a weird side to it too, as everyone started figuring out how to do tricks with moc code. around this time was when clay invented php traps: which were codes written as hyperlinks that, when clicked, posted messages in your name on the board. the first one was "omg! i think i'm gay!" but the "i'm a newbie retard" one is the most famous.
when pics finally came back and html was stripped from profiles, all of the profiles were left blank--or so they told us. actually, that was done to cover up a huge glitch. they had planned to leave everyone's text the same but merely return to disallowing html in profiles. however, something went wrong and somehow everyone's profile contained the text from username: username. i'm not sure how that happened but it did. some people never even saw it.
YOU KNOW DOING THIS IS A LOT HARDER WHEN I'M ON I.M. SORRY KIDS, I'LL POST MORE IN A WHILE.
OK HERE'S A STORY THAT'S HALF PERSONAL ANECDOTE AND HALF MOC HISTORY.
33 is notorious for being a stalker type. well, some of you may not know this, but she was not the first of that kind. back in the summer of 2001 i had an interesting encounter with a similar girl, only this one was from the east coast. her username was opheliasteeltoe.
me and this girl first just started talking because she was posting one night and i saw she was from kentucky, which borders virginia. that meant she only lived a few hours from me. so i figured what the hell, i'll say hey to this girl. well, she was cool enough i guess, but kinda weird with her emotional reactions to things. i could tell that she was a bit immature, had a bit of growing up to do. but i figured... what the hell, right? it's just some internet girl. why worry?
well, the longer we talked, the weirder she got. she would tell me about how boys where she lived didn't like her and treated her bad. and then she brought up that she was fat. i didn't really care but so much, and told her so. i mean, she was some girl from another state that i was just being friendly with. what did it matter? i wasn't trying to hit it.
i guess she WAS trying to hit it. after that she came on kinda strong. i would be nice, and humor her, because it was obvious she had some problems, but i never really encouraged her in any weird directions. luckily, unlike 33, she wasn't all about blatantly insisting that sex occur. that would have sent me running. maybe it would have been better that way.
things came to a head (eep, no pun, no pun) when my band was gonna go on tour. we were playing in louisville, and she lived in some small town that we were gonna drive right through. i told her that maybe i could go say hey to her and hang out for a little bit. well, that was it. she was gonna kiss me. she was gonna cuddle with me. etc etc etc. i began backpedaling furiously. see, i got burned by a net hookup in 1995, when most people didn't HAVE the net, and i've been extremely leery of them ever since. of course, telling her that was more an excuse than anything. fact was, she freaked me out a bit already, and then when she flipped out more about meeting me i got terrified.
luckily it turned out that we were gonna be going through her town at 6 am. so we couldn't hang out after all. but when i told her that she flipped again, i had to calm her down, it got ridiculous. finally she was just being insane so i blocked her.
of course, me being the emo bastard i was, and am, i felt terrible even having to do that. i felt like she had problems, and i'd tried to be some sort of support for her, and instead i'd just turned into a vehicle for her dysfunction. it was a scary and sad thing.
i ended up talking to davey specialbrew and brett banditelli about this later, they both had very similar experiences. i'm sure other moc guys did too.
but yeah, there you go. the ghost of psycho stalkers past.
ROLAND, I'M GLAD YOU'RE ENJOYING IT. I'M HAVING TO GRASP FOR STORIES NOW, I THINK I'VE EXHAUSTED THE ONES THAT ACTUALLY AFFECTED EVERYONE--AT LEAST THE ONES THAT I KNOW THAT AFFECTED EVERYONE.
ALSO, CHECK OUT MY "I NEED HELP BLAH BLAH" THREAD. CADASTRAL'S TELLING STORIES OVER THERE.
HMMMM, SHANNON, I DON'T REALLY KNOW ANY STORIES ABOUT YOU. YOU'RE ALSO PRETTY NEW IN YOUR DONKEY_PUNCH INCARNATION SO MOST PEOPLE WILL REMEMBER ANYTHING I CAN TELL. I AM TRYING TO TELL OLD STORIES IN THIS THREAD, LIKE 2002 AND BEFORE.
but you know, despite everything, i still <3 you.
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