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WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:31 PM

hume's law is that you can't get an ought from an is. the idea is that you can't get a "should" statement, a value statement, from a factual description of the world.

so all our values and shoulds etc have to come from sentiment

this is an idea advanced by david hume, one of the great philosophers!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Hume



LOS ANGELES/CA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:35 PM

Hume's Law is flawed from conception because philosophers only deal in "should", as they don't do anything to actually create reality. Because they majored in philosophy so they didn't have to get a real job.


WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:39 PM

tofuhero Said:
Hume's Law is flawed from conception because philosophers only deal in "should", as they don't do anything to actually create reality. Because they majored in philosophy so they didn't have to get a real job.


that's crazy! philosopher's deal in non-should's all the time; all the epistemology.



PRESCOTT/AZ
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:39 PM

but you don't have to major in philosophy to not get a real job.

i didn't major in philosophy and i don't have a real job.

everything is flawed anyway, why try to not deal in "should". i don't even know how not to deal in "should".



PRESCOTT/AZ
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:40 PM

can i borrow a pen from you real quick?


WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:42 PM

if anything there's way more philosophy on what is, not what one should do
despite my grammatical errors, I declare you mistaken!


but I add this teaser:


it IS flawed, but it's flawed in an obscure and esoteric way that is irrelevant to this conversation



LOS ANGELES/CA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:43 PM

This was already discussed by Stephen Colbert. TRUTHINESS. It FEELS true, there for it is.


WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:44 PM

I think maybe you just hate philosophy, meaning that you might hate contemplating the question of what the human mind can fully comprehend and think about the universe. the beauty of the human mind is the wonderful saving grace that makes life wondrous every day and always worth living and all that stuff..

so...you can take that! unless you'd prefer dead-brained zombies.



Montreal
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:47 PM

NEWS FLASH:

PHILOSOPHERS RUIN EVERYTHING.



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:53 PM

discostu Said:
NEWS FLASH:

PHILOSOPHERS RUIN EVERYTHING.


JUST LIKE YOUR ART RUINS MY EYEBALLS?



PRESCOTT/AZ
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:55 PM

your vagina is ruined.


WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:56 PM

BENISTERRIBLE Said:
your vagina is ruined.


why.



PRESCOTT/AZ
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August 19th, 2008 - 11:58 PM

whidon'tknow.

i didn't do it.



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 20th, 2008 - 12:00 AM

BENISTERRIBLE Said:
whidon'tknow.

i didn't do it.


you know nothing of my vagina.



PRESCOTT/AZ
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August 20th, 2008 - 12:06 AM

and lady miss ma'am, i have never once claimed to know the slightest of your vagina.

but while we're on the subject.... what do you think of the lcd soundsystem being played durring the intro to a will ferral (ferrel?) movie?



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 20th, 2008 - 12:10 AM

BENISTERRIBLE Said:
and lady miss ma'am, i have never once claimed to know the slightest of your vagina.

but while we're on the subject.... what do you think of the lcd soundsystem being played durring the intro to a will ferral (ferrel?) movie?


'It comes apart, the way it does in bad films.'



PRESCOTT/AZ
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August 20th, 2008 - 12:11 AM

no not that one the other one


LAKE FOREST/CA
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August 20th, 2008 - 12:11 AM

I'm a little rusty, because it's been a while.

But I believe "Ought" is the value statement, and "Should" belongs to the realm of duty.



Stockholm, SWEDEN
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August 20th, 2008 - 1:17 AM

emilectrique Said:
BENISTERRIBLE Said:
whidon'tknow.

i didn't do it.


you know nothing of my vagina.


rly



BRONX/NY
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August 20th, 2008 - 1:35 AM

you all ought to shut up.
you really should.



Montreal
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:07 AM

emilectrique Said:
discostu Said:
NEWS FLASH:

PHILOSOPHERS RUIN EVERYTHING.


JUST LIKE YOUR ART RUINS MY EYEBALLS?


THAT'S IT - MY CAT IS COMIN' TO FUCK YOU UUUUP!!



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:59 AM

burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb



OUT ON AN ISLAND
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August 20th, 2008 - 4:49 AM

ALL A YALL CAN SUCK MEINONG! AND FURTHER MORE ALL OF YOUR EXISTENCE CLAIMS ARE A LUMPL OF SHIT.


(my guess is only cary will app. this response)



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 20th, 2008 - 7:45 AM

HectorXDelgado Said:
ALL A YALL CAN SUCK MEINONG! AND FURTHER MORE ALL OF YOUR EXISTENCE CLAIMS ARE A LUMPL OF SHIT.


(my guess is only cary will app. this response)


you are a lumpl



CANOGA PARK/CA
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August 20th, 2008 - 8:24 AM

well, Wait.. what's an is then?

(don't tell me if it jeopardizes the security of my neatly arranged oughts)



BRONX/NY
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August 20th, 2008 - 9:59 AM

emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @wikipedia "intellectuals"



GOODRICH/MI
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August 20th, 2008 - 10:17 AM

my head is spinning


SAN FRANCISCO/CA
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August 20th, 2008 - 10:25 AM

burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @wikipedia "intellectuals"



sudbury
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August 20th, 2008 - 10:45 AM

BENISTERRIBLE Said:
and lady miss ma'am, i have never once claimed to know the slightest of your vagina.

but while we're on the subject.... what do you think of the lcd soundsystem being played durring the intro to a will ferral (ferrel?) movie?

no it wasn't lcd soundsystem the intro song was vampire weekend - cape cod kwassa kwassa.



Chicago
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August 20th, 2008 - 10:59 AM

discostu Said:
NEWS FLASH:

PHILOSOPHERS RUIN EVERYTHING.



ST. JAMES INFIRMARY
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August 20th, 2008 - 11:02 AM

BENISTERRIBLE Said:
can i borrow a pen from you real quick?


uhh. i have a receipt and this lipliner.

fuck i spilled my handbag.



Stockholm, SWEDEN
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August 20th, 2008 - 11:12 AM

walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @wikipedia "intellectuals"



SUQUAMISH/WA
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August 20th, 2008 - 11:39 AM

I think science has ruined everything, because philosophy does not produce:



also: you might like Wittgenstein emily.



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:10 PM

walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @wikipedia "intellectuals"


nice try



Stockholm, SWEDEN
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:14 PM

pescha Said:
walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @wikipedia "intellectuals"



Montreal
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Posts: 20201
August 20th, 2008 - 2:17 PM

pescha Said:
pescha Said:
walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @ "intellectuals"



LAS VEGAS/NV
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:18 PM

I'm only familiar with Brit Hume's law




Stockholm, SWEDEN
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:19 PM

discostu Said:
pescha Said:
pescha Said:
walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @ "intellectuals"



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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Posts: 4841
August 20th, 2008 - 2:31 PM

discostu Said:
pescha Said:
pescha Said:
walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @ "intellectuals"


lol@"graphic artists"



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:42 PM




Stockholm, SWEDEN
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Posts: 2759
August 20th, 2008 - 2:43 PM

emilectrique Said:
discostu Said:
pescha Said:
pescha Said:
walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @ "intellectuals"


lol@"graphic artists"


emilectrique Said:





sudbury
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Posts: 1204
August 20th, 2008 - 2:48 PM

walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol@ attempted intellectual conversations on MOC



WOODBRIDGE/VA
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:51 PM

i thought i would have been funnier than this


OUT ON AN ISLAND
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August 20th, 2008 - 2:55 PM

HectorXDelgado Said:
ALL A YALL CAN SUCK MEINONG! AND FURTHER MORE ALL OF YOUR EXISTENCE CLAIMS ARE A LUMPL OF SHIT.


(my guess is only cary will app. this response)



BRONX/NY
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Posts: 11423
August 20th, 2008 - 4:11 PM

emilectrique Said:
i thought i would have been funnier than this



emilectrique Said:
nice try



Dundas
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August 20th, 2008 - 4:48 PM

i think that a factual statement is something you would used to support an ought statement,

but rather, matters such as morals, ethics, and opinions based on personal taste are matters of sentiment,

while matters of a more theoretical sort are based on facts.



ROCHESTER/NY
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August 20th, 2008 - 6:05 PM

walt_flanagan Said:
burning_monk Said:
emilectrique Said:
burning_monk Said:
you all ought to shut up.
you really should.


udumb




lol @wikipedia "intellectuals"

walt!!



LAKE FOREST/CA
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Posts: 8933
August 20th, 2008 - 6:07 PM

discostu Said:
NEWS FLASH:

PHILOSOPHERS RUIN EVERYTHING.


INCLUDING YOUR WILL TO GET AHEAD IN LIFE

FUCKING PHILOSOPHY



RICHMOND/VA
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August 21st, 2008 - 5:26 AM

did someone say vagina?


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