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PITTSBURGH/PA
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July 3rd, 2009 - 9:38 PM

I believe that I don't believe anything.
After a brain-twisting, university-required faith and atheism class, I decided to align myself with negative atheism whenever I'm forced to answer this question.



BLOOMINGTON/IN
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Posts: 1424
July 3rd, 2009 - 9:45 PM

Erzeal Said:
audrey_james Said:
Erzeal Said:
Religion should be banned. Period.. Its been nothing but bad for this planet.

and, you can't fucking ban religion. that's like a 100x worse solution to an already bad problem.


Course you can ban it. But nobody has the guts to do it.

sorry but banning religion would just be another bastardized form of religion. read 1984. cliched but there's a good example of what deleting god from society does; it would arise again no matter what (big brother=jesus). there is a reason it has existed in different forms for most of civilized human history.



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
Joined: 06/21/09
Posts: 171
July 3rd, 2009 - 9:54 PM

Its existed cause people are weak minded. Its existed because people in power use it to keep said people weak minded.
I say destroy it all. Sure their will be alot of death in the short term (due to the unfortunate, but unavoidable violent backlash. But eventually will be better off.) The Religious institutions better count their prayers someone like me doesn't get charge of the world.



OREM/UT
Joined: 01/13/09
Posts: 815
July 3rd, 2009 - 9:55 PM

I believe...

In a thing called love



BROOKLYN/NY
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July 3rd, 2009 - 9:57 PM

get_in_the_van Said:
negative atheism




::head explodes::



PITTSBURGH/PA
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July 3rd, 2009 - 9:59 PM

burning_monk Said:
get_in_the_van Said:
negative atheism




::head explodes::


WAT NAO



BLOOMINGTON/IN
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Posts: 1424
July 3rd, 2009 - 10:00 PM

Erzeal Said:
Its existed cause people are weak minded. Its existed because people in power use it to keep said people weak minded.
I say destroy it all. Sure their will be alot of death in the short term (due to the unfortunate, but unavoidable violent backlash. But eventually will be better off.) The Religious institutions better count their prayers someone like me doesn't get charge of the world.

yeah i guess we better all count our prayers



BROOKLYN/NY
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July 3rd, 2009 - 10:03 PM

get_in_the_van Said:
burning_monk Said:
get_in_the_van Said:
negative atheism




::head explodes::


WAT NAO



i renounce all things, start wearing a potato sack, and live in a secluded shed somewhere in a national park



PITTSBURGH/PA
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July 3rd, 2009 - 10:05 PM

burning_monk Said:
get_in_the_van Said:
burning_monk Said:
get_in_the_van Said:
negative atheism




::head explodes::


WAT NAO



i renounce all things, start wearing a potato sack, and live in a secluded shed somewhere in a national park


You might need a shotgun.



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
Joined: 06/21/09
Posts: 171
July 3rd, 2009 - 10:05 PM

burning_monk Said:
get_in_the_van Said:
burning_monk Said:
get_in_the_van Said:
negative atheism




::head explodes::


WAT NAO



i renounce all things, start wearing a potato sack, and live in a secluded shed somewhere in a national park


LOL



WHEELING/WV
Joined: 06/26/09
Posts: 1182
July 3rd, 2009 - 10:10 PM

I'm Buddhist.

I used to be a huge Jesus freak, and I don't regret it, as it was kind of what I needed at the time. It got my life together, cleaned my act up, got me off drugs, etc. Now, looking back, I feel like a moron for believing that crap.



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
Joined: 06/21/09
Posts: 171
July 3rd, 2009 - 10:14 PM

timorousme Said:
I'm Buddhist.

I used to be a huge Jesus freak, and I don't regret it, as it was kind of what I needed at the time. It got my life together, cleaned my act up, got me off drugs, etc. Now, looking back, I feel like a moron for believing that crap.


Yea i was a Christian too. I was raised in it..
Luckily one day i came to realize that it was all bogus and just a brain washing institution designed to control and make money for itself.
Unlike you i do regret it. All the time i wasted in youth groups and church for nothing..



Skidbury
Joined: 06/30/09
Posts: 86
July 3rd, 2009 - 10:16 PM

Wow....I think that there is a lot to be said on both sides of this coin. Religion as a structure is almost flawless as a form of control. It does however offer solace to those who need it. Although religion itself is always spoken of in the context of organization, spirituality on the other hand is free and roaming. You have those who are so disgusted by the misuse and fundamentalism of religion, using it as means to war and persecution that polarize the argument.

It always struck me as odd that if there is something, God what have you....that we believe we can understand it. I think that is the biggest arrogance of human kind. To lay claim on such an abstract notion as to be able to formulate laws and structure is absolute bunk. It is one of the first way humans learned how to cope with their finite knowledge of the world and the unexplainable things in it.

It all depends though....If you look at different sects of Christianity the message is so messed up its unreal. From the Gnostics to full fledged Roman Catholicism, the idea that the world in which we live and even so far as to say ourselves is so flawed that we cannot even attempt to understand God, we have to go through a god like super man works ONLY on the basis that we are evil and flawed.

However, I believe that (and this is going to sound very Aristotelian) that divinity comes with the use of the higher faculties of what we are. We are thinkers, we understand and learn thus we are using what is most unique among all things. This curiosity should not be satisfied, and in the end we will all find out. Aristotle said that happiness is a activity, not just passing pleasantries. Life, love and knowledge is an endless pursuit, something which we must not forget. That right there....for me is "God".



DURHAM/NC
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Posts: 7665
July 3rd, 2009 - 10:17 PM

Erzeal Said:
Agnostics are fence straddlers.. Make up your mind. Ether you believe in God or you dont..
You cant have it both ways.


Not necessarily.

I don't believe in God, but I don't not believe in him.
I have no proof a god exists, but I am not going to forthright deny it either.



LOS ANGELES/CA
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July 3rd, 2009 - 10:22 PM

bradarad Said:
i remember yelling at my tv a lot.



GAINESVILLE/FL
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Posts: 250
July 3rd, 2009 - 10:43 PM

I believe in karma. That's pretty much it.


LA PUENTE/CA
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July 3rd, 2009 - 10:44 PM

Spazzcakes Said:
Erzeal Said:
Agnostics are fence straddlers.. Make up your mind. Ether you believe in God or you dont..
You cant have it both ways.


Not necessarily.

I don't believe in God, but I don't not believe in him.
I have no proof a god exists, but I am not going to forthright deny it either.

real talk. science cant disprove or proof GOD, but it certainly can disprove religion though. plus I'm a firm believer of evolution.
remember knowledge is the enemy of faith.



DURHAM/NC
Joined: 11/23/08
Posts: 7665
July 3rd, 2009 - 11:01 PM

practicedhatred Said:
Spazzcakes Said:
Erzeal Said:
Agnostics are fence straddlers.. Make up your mind. Ether you believe in God or you dont..
You cant have it both ways.


Not necessarily.

I don't believe in God, but I don't not believe in him.
I have no proof a god exists, but I am not going to forthright deny it either.

real talk. science cant disprove or proof GOD, but it certainly can disprove religion though. plus I'm a firm believer of evolution.
remember knowledge is the enemy of faith.


it is.

so can knowledge be faith?



SAN JOSE/CA
Joined: 02/25/08
Posts: 4042
July 3rd, 2009 - 11:12 PM

TooDarkPark Said:
Wow....I think that there is a lot to be said on both sides of this coin. Religion as a structure is almost flawless as a form of control. It does however offer solace to those who need it. Although religion itself is always spoken of in the context of organization, spirituality on the other hand is free and roaming. You have those who are so disgusted by the misuse and fundamentalism of religion, using it as means to war and persecution that polarize the argument.

It always struck me as odd that if there is something, God what have you....that we believe we can understand it. I think that is the biggest arrogance of human kind. To lay claim on such an abstract notion as to be able to formulate laws and structure is absolute bunk. It is one of the first way humans learned how to cope with their finite knowledge of the world and the unexplainable things in it.

It all depends though....If you look at different sects of Christianity the message is so messed up its unreal. From the Gnostics to full fledged Roman Catholicism, the idea that the world in which we live and even so far as to say ourselves is so flawed that we cannot even attempt to understand God, we have to go through a god like super man works ONLY on the basis that we are evil and flawed.

However, I believe that (and this is going to sound very Aristotelian) that divinity comes with the use of the higher faculties of what we are. We are thinkers, we understand and learn thus we are using what is most unique among all things. This curiosity should not be satisfied, and in the end we will all find out. Aristotle said that happiness is a activity, not just passing pleasantries. Life, love and knowledge is an endless pursuit, something which we must not forget. That right there....for me is "God".
Dear miss 50 post count, way to go. you are allowed to stay, all other dumbasses gtfo



DURHAM/NC
Joined: 11/23/08
Posts: 7665
July 3rd, 2009 - 11:16 PM

MechanicalWings Said:
TooDarkPark Said:
Wow....I think that there is a lot to be said on both sides of this coin. Religion as a structure is almost flawless as a form of control. It does however offer solace to those who need it. Although religion itself is always spoken of in the context of organization, spirituality on the other hand is free and roaming. You have those who are so disgusted by the misuse and fundamentalism of religion, using it as means to war and persecution that polarize the argument.

It always struck me as odd that if there is something, God what have you....that we believe we can understand it. I think that is the biggest arrogance of human kind. To lay claim on such an abstract notion as to be able to formulate laws and structure is absolute bunk. It is one of the first way humans learned how to cope with their finite knowledge of the world and the unexplainable things in it.

It all depends though....If you look at different sects of Christianity the message is so messed up its unreal. From the Gnostics to full fledged Roman Catholicism, the idea that the world in which we live and even so far as to say ourselves is so flawed that we cannot even attempt to understand God, we have to go through a god like super man works ONLY on the basis that we are evil and flawed.

However, I believe that (and this is going to sound very Aristotelian) that divinity comes with the use of the higher faculties of what we are. We are thinkers, we understand and learn thus we are using what is most unique among all things. This curiosity should not be satisfied, and in the end we will all find out. Aristotle said that happiness is a activity, not just passing pleasantries. Life, love and knowledge is an endless pursuit, something which we must not forget. That right there....for me is "God".
Dear miss 50 post count, way to go. you are allowed to stay, all other dumbasses gtfo



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
Joined: 06/21/09
Posts: 171
July 4th, 2009 - 8:19 AM

Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


INDIANAPOLIS/IN
Joined: 10/02/08
Posts: 3378
July 4th, 2009 - 8:30 AM

Erzeal Said:
Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


It's because your point is unfounded idiocy.

BAN RELIGION!!!!! DERPA DERPA!

Banning religion is not only impossible, but a violent over stepping of the rights all people want, need and deserve from the state or their fellow man.

That being said, "Have you heard the good news brother?"



MANSFIELD/TX
Joined: 01/30/09
Posts: 725
July 4th, 2009 - 9:22 AM

This is a conversation that I am tired of having. My brain operates through logic and rationality and in religion I find neither. There are days when I can physically feel the gears in my mind stripping and rusting due to the unending lunacy spewing forth from the mouths of the masses. It's a ceaseless tide of nonsensical bullshit. Such obvious fairy tales that any self aware being should be capable of discerning it's blatant flaws. This is more bitching than me actually adding anything but it's infuriating being forced to coexist with imbeciles who want to force the divine horse shit on everyone. I want to be able to enjoy my life free of religion and all its trappings but that proves to be an impossible dream in a world so inundated with stupidity and intolerance. I hope one day people will realize that there is far more strength to be found within the mind. You don't need an imaginary higher power to supply it to you.
/religious butthurt



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
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Posts: 171
July 4th, 2009 - 9:41 AM

Logan_Rivers Said:
Erzeal Said:
Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


It's because your point is unfounded idiocy.

BAN RELIGION!!!!! DERPA DERPA!

Banning religion is not only impossible, but a violent over stepping of the rights all people want, need and deserve from the state or their fellow man.

That being said, "Have you heard the good news brother?"


Sigh.. Hopefully one day people will come to their senses. Religion is intolerable, mindless bullshit.



BLOOMINGTON/IN
Joined: 12/21/08
Posts: 1424
July 4th, 2009 - 10:08 AM

Erzeal Said:
Logan_Rivers Said:
Erzeal Said:
Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


It's because your point is unfounded idiocy.

BAN RELIGION!!!!! DERPA DERPA!

Banning religion is not only impossible, but a violent over stepping of the rights all people want, need and deserve from the state or their fellow man.

That being said, "Have you heard the good news brother?"


Sigh.. Hopefully one day people will come to their senses. Religion is intolerable, mindless bullshit.

I'll pray for you.



DALLAS/TX
Joined: 12/26/08
Posts: 3270
July 4th, 2009 - 10:15 AM

Hollow Said:
Religion is ridic.



JSNLevi Said:
in contrast to the blindly atheist leanings of most posters, i am very firmly agnostic. simply put: i am absolutely sure that i don't and can't comprehend the true nature of life and the universe.


Wait, how are you "firmly agnostic." That's like being "utterly unsure," isn't it?



PALM COAST/FL
Joined: 09/08/08
Posts: 8687
July 4th, 2009 - 11:03 AM

i don't eally believe in a higher power. i mean, it's possible, i just don't care to think too deeply about god(s) and all that shit.

unless we're talking thor and loki, cause that thor movie is gonna be SICK.






side note: i'm buddhist, if it matters.



PALM COAST/FL
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July 4th, 2009 - 11:04 AM

Erzeal Said:
Logan_Rivers Said:
Erzeal Said:
Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


It's because your point is unfounded idiocy.

BAN RELIGION!!!!! DERPA DERPA!

Banning religion is not only impossible, but a violent over stepping of the rights all people want, need and deserve from the state or their fellow man.

That being said, "Have you heard the good news brother?"


Sigh.. Hopefully one day people will come to their senses. Religion is intolerable, mindless bullshit.


also, you make me angry. i hate the "ban religion" people almost as much as the bible thumpers.



BLOOMINGTON/IN
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Posts: 1424
July 4th, 2009 - 11:41 AM

ryanage Said:
Erzeal Said:
Logan_Rivers Said:
Erzeal Said:
Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


It's because your point is unfounded idiocy.

BAN RELIGION!!!!! DERPA DERPA!

Banning religion is not only impossible, but a violent over stepping of the rights all people want, need and deserve from the state or their fellow man.

That being said, "Have you heard the good news brother?"


Sigh.. Hopefully one day people will come to their senses. Religion is intolerable, mindless bullshit.


also, you make me angry. i hate the "ban religion" people almost as much as the bible thumpers.

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.



Toronto
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July 4th, 2009 - 11:45 AM

timorousme Said:
I'm Buddhist.

I used to be a huge Jesus freak, and I don't regret it, as it was kind of what I needed at the time. It got my life together, cleaned my act up, got me off drugs, etc. Now, looking back, I feel like a moron for believing that crap.


The Buddhist part...



BROOKLYN/NY
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July 4th, 2009 - 11:52 AM

audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.



really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?



PALM COAST/FL
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July 4th, 2009 - 11:56 AM

burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.



really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?



i only do about fairy tales. that big bad wolf is a douche-bag, though.



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
Joined: 06/21/09
Posts: 171
July 4th, 2009 - 12:04 PM

audrey_james Said:
Erzeal Said:
Logan_Rivers Said:
Erzeal Said:
Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


It's because your point is unfounded idiocy.

BAN RELIGION!!!!! DERPA DERPA!

Banning religion is not only impossible, but a violent over stepping of the rights all people want, need and deserve from the state or their fellow man.

That being said, "Have you heard the good news brother?"


Sigh.. Hopefully one day people will come to their senses. Religion is intolerable, mindless bullshit.

I'll pray for you.


Dont waste your time or brain.



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
Joined: 06/21/09
Posts: 171
July 4th, 2009 - 12:04 PM

ryanage Said:
Erzeal Said:
Logan_Rivers Said:
Erzeal Said:
Im quite pleasantly surprised. No death threats this time. Usually when i state my opinion on Religion i get a very very very negative reaction. lol


It's because your point is unfounded idiocy.

BAN RELIGION!!!!! DERPA DERPA!

Banning religion is not only impossible, but a violent over stepping of the rights all people want, need and deserve from the state or their fellow man.

That being said, "Have you heard the good news brother?"


Sigh.. Hopefully one day people will come to their senses. Religion is intolerable, mindless bullshit.


also, you make me angry. i hate the "ban religion" people almost as much as the bible thumpers.


Boohoo get over it.



BLOOMINGTON/IN
Joined: 12/21/08
Posts: 1424
July 4th, 2009 - 12:06 PM

burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.



really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?

there's a difference between morality and having an open mind.



BROOKLYN/NY
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July 4th, 2009 - 12:08 PM

ryanage Said:
burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.


really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?


i only do about fairy tales. that big bad wolf is a douche-bag, though.






that cross dressing misogynist



BLOOMINGTON/IN
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Posts: 1424
July 4th, 2009 - 12:09 PM

audrey_james Said:
burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.



really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?

there's a difference between morality and having an open mind.

also, fairy tales? homophobia is being close minded so yes i'm not open minded to that. same goes for racism and sexism.



BROOKLYN/NY
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July 4th, 2009 - 12:12 PM

audrey_james Said:
burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.


really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?


there's a difference between morality and having an open mind.



you were suggesting, in reply to what ryan said, that people should be open minded about religion. and my point is that all the major religions have one or all of those aspects in them. even buddhism (as a religion, not as a philosophy as it was meant to be) has sexism and homophobia in it's ancient texts.
it's all just a fairy tale created by man, not by God(s).



BLOOMINGTON/IN
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Posts: 1424
July 4th, 2009 - 12:14 PM

burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:
burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.


really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?


there's a difference between morality and having an open mind.



you were suggesting, in reply to what ryan said, that people should be open minded about religion. and my point is that all the major religions have one or all of those aspects in them. even buddhism (as a religion, not as a philosophy as it was meant to be) has sexism and homophobia in it's ancient texts.
it's all just a fairy tale created by man, not by God(s).

I think you misunderstood, I wasn't implying being open-minded about religion, I just meant about the existence of god or some other higher being. I consider the two to be leagues apart, as organized religion is man-made and fucked.



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
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Posts: 171
July 4th, 2009 - 12:16 PM

burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:
burning_monk Said:
audrey_james Said:

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.


really? so you have an open mind towards racism, sexism, homophobia, and fairy tales being true?


there's a difference between morality and having an open mind.



you were suggesting, in reply to what ryan said, that people should be open minded about religion. and my point is that all the major religions have one or all of those aspects in them. even buddhism (as a religion, not as a philosophy as it was meant to be) has sexism and homophobia in it's ancient texts.
it's all just a fairy tale created by man, not by God(s).


Exactly!! Bravo good man.

Hell the mythical Jesus is just a copy of quite a number of Messiahs before him. Its all just made up fairy tales by humans who cant deal with the fact that when they die their going nowhere.



BROOKLYN/NY
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July 4th, 2009 - 12:17 PM

audrey_james Said:
ryanage Said:

also, you make me angry. i hate the "ban religion" people almost as much as the bible thumpers.

agreed. being close-minded is always bad, regardless of what you are being close-minded about.



you can see why i took it as defending "religion"

ok, off to bike ride to go eat BBQed food



BLOOMINGTON/IN
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Posts: 1424
July 4th, 2009 - 12:18 PM

there is a difference between believing in God and following a religion. that's my point. of course religion is fucked and corrupt and it always has been and always will be. has nothing to do with spiritual beliefs, if you choose not to follow an impossible belief-system that is only assumed to be correct because the right person said it was.

this makes sense in my head.



SAINT AUGUSTINE/FL
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Posts: 171
July 4th, 2009 - 12:29 PM

People should read the God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.
If more people listened to that man wed be a lot better off.



Skidbury
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Posts: 86
July 4th, 2009 - 2:11 PM

Erzeal Said:
People should read the God Delusion by Richard Dawkins.
If more people listened to that man wed be a lot better off.


people should use their minds and not follow someone elses opinion.
ummlakyn Said:
Hollow Said:
Religion is ridic.



JSNLevi Said:
in contrast to the blindly atheist leanings of most posters, i am very firmly agnostic. simply put: i am absolutely sure that i don't and can't comprehend the true nature of life and the universe.


Wait, how are you "firmly agnostic." That's like being "utterly unsure," isn't it?


Agnostic just means "without knowledge" has nothing to do with being unsure....just a more rational look at religion or any spiritual belief....it almost verges on scientific method...Religion is nothing without blind faith.



PORTLAND/OR
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July 4th, 2009 - 2:23 PM

TooDarkPark Said:
JSNLevi Said:
in contrast to the blindly atheist leanings of most posters, i am very firmly agnostic. simply put: i am absolutely sure that i don't and can't comprehend the true nature of life and the universe.


Wait, how are you "firmly agnostic." That's like being "utterly unsure," isn't it?


Agnostic just means "without knowledge" has nothing to do with being unsure....just a more rational look at religion or any spiritual belief....it almost verges on scientific method...Religion is nothing without blind faith.[/quote]

It takes exactly as much faith to be an atheist as it does a theist. we cannot prove or disprove either. the only belief that i hold is that i am incapable of having certainty on these matters. if you are certain, no matter what of, you are on equal footing in my eyes with every other person who is certain, regardless of your differing beliefs.

except scientologists. that shit is wack.



PORTLAND/OR
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July 4th, 2009 - 2:26 PM

wow. quotefail, but you get the idea if you're paying attention.


Skidbury
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Posts: 86
July 4th, 2009 - 2:37 PM

There still needs to be an openness in which you can figure out exactly what you believe, or rather what constitutes a meaningful way to look at things. Religion is an option, but by no means the only one...and neither is atheism, its all in how you want to believe it....its personal...and should never be up for critique as long as it does not infringe on another persons right to life/love/ideas.

I will go along with Lao Tzu on this one...."A way which can be named is not the way".



VANCOUVER/BC
Joined: 12/12/08
Posts: 2008
July 4th, 2009 - 3:46 PM

caranicole Said:
I believe in a higher power, but not like insane religion-pushing Bible thumpers.


this
not going to be talking about it all the time or pushing it on other people
That's what old Mennonites are for.



PALM COAST/FL
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Posts: 8687
July 4th, 2009 - 3:49 PM

thewildthings Said:
caranicole Said:
I believe in a higher power, but not like insane religion-pushing Bible thumpers.


this
not going to be talking about it all the time or pushing it on other people
That's what old Mennonites are for.



they also make tasty candies.



WHEELING/WV
Joined: 06/26/09
Posts: 1182
July 4th, 2009 - 4:01 PM

I believe in the Dark Carnival.

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